Re: [-empyre-] .....][t][oiling of the 3D recursion ball....

["app][lick.ation][end.age" <netwurker@hotkey.net.au>]

At 01:31 PM 3/09/2002 -0400, katherine wrote:

> i've been fairly obsessed with the idea of identity construction in MOOs
> for some time, playing with it on the level of programming, one layer
> beneath the descriptions that jill is modifying. in MOOs, as opposed to
> IRC's and the majority of MUDs, as a participant, you're given the
> opportunity to hack the self, as it were.
> you're represented not just by your textual description- which yes,
> yields all kinds of opportunities for play and experimentation- but also
> by a programmable object.

..this seems like a crucial distinction, k........._hacking the self_ as 
opposed 2 _constructing the self_ [though both overlap if we're referring 2 
the original meaning of hacker]..........

> my poor player-object has undergone all kinds of surgery- she's got a
> markov chain built in to her so that her/my utterances are not always
> subject to my complete control.

..like a tourette's sin.drone?;)

this is the type of anima-manipulation that is so fascinating...how loss of 
control [though fully engineered by it] can, in turn, subsequently effect 
the reality-based principal comptroller, so 2 type..............did u find 
any carry-ovas, k?

> in another frankenstein fit, i grafted a room object onto another
> character of mine- creating a grotesque hybrid player-room. i sincerely
> thought the MOO would explode when i built some exits off of myself and
> then proceeded to enter myself. what resulted was this insane recursion,
> not unlike the scene in being john malkovich when malkovich also enters
> himself. i can't think about that one too long. i get seriously wiggly.

heh, well that's cleared up the qs above, then:)

.....seriously, though, in that _grotesque hybrid player-room_ [& i must 
admit i visualize it in a cronenberg image-light, s.pecially _fused_ (bad 
pun) with notions of his remake of the movie _The Fly_, where the end 
product of an abortive teleportation x.periments results in a weird 
interbreed of (mechanical) teleporter parts, scientist & fly]  this melding 
of architectural interface & player identity must have produced amazing 
results, s.pecially in terms of the resulting consciousness...[as wiggy as 
it mite b:)]..i have visions of subconscious repressions becoming actual 
via streams of dreamlogic mediated via a splicing with the architectural 
modifiers + conflicting primary -ego- looping..........[i do have a 
tendency 2wards the melo.dramatic when getting visual;)]

did u let the chinese-box-n.corp|mirror-room identity-warping m.pact on any 
consciousness formation that the MOO had previously developed? or is this 
stretching wot i glean 2 b a thorough m.mersive potential via a MOO, with 
[endless] object|programming manipulations?



> to bring this back to mez's linguistic hacking (is it fair to call it
> that?)

sure! call it wot u like.

> - i see these as related activities- experimenting with the
> represented self on the level of linguistics codes.

absolutely, k.

re:re:re.cursively,
mez

[was going 2 sign off as "katherine" here, but calling myself jill in my 
last post didn't get any reaction, so i've refrained:0)]





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